Moody 422/425 Beaching the 422

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Thierry Troadec

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Hi,
according to her shoal draft and her keel shape I guess the Moody 422 adapted for beaching with drying legs. Could you please share your experience of beaching your 422 with me or let me know your opinion about this practice.
I'm looking forward for reading you.
Best regards.
Thierry Troadec
 
Hi Thierry,

I don't think the keel was particularly designed for beaching, although we have the standard 1.83 fin keel on our M425, Wild Thyme. I have no doubt the shoal draft version of the M422 could be beached safely if you have legs securely mounted on each side, but I would not want to do it unless I had inspected the site for beaching at low water beforehand to ensure there are no obstructions or other hazards.

Peter.
 
Hi Peter,

I agree with you about the beaching; always with care! I've been told that the shoal draft version of the 422 was originally fitted with fixing device for the legs. It would mean that the boat in this version was thought for beaching wouldn't it?
I would be delighted in finding out the test report of the 422 published in 1987 in The Yacht Market or Yacht world. Would you have an idea about how to get it?
Best regards.
Thierry
 
Hi Thierry,

If they offered her with legs, they clearly thought of beaching her, but I had never heard that story before now. The key purpose of the shoak draft was to allow her to sail in shallow waters, such as the East Coast of England where I sail. Many of the ports around here I class as "half tide ports", by which I mean that you need half tide or more to get in or out with Wild Thyme's 6 foot draft. It's a handy concept, because half tide is about the same depth at springs or neaps. The flat bottom of the keel gets the weight as low down as possible , maximising the righting moment for a given draft.

Sorry, no idea how you can find copies of old test reports nowadays. Yachting World and Yachting Monthly (same publisher) used to run a service selling copies of old test reports, but gave it up about 30 years ago - presumably no profit in it. It's possible an owner on here has one, but I don't know.

Peter.
 
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Peter Wright said:
Hi Thierry,

If they offered her with legs, they clearly thought of beaching her, but I had never heard that story before now. The key purpose of the shoak draft was to allow her to sail in shallow waters, such as the East Coast of England where I sail. Many of the ports around here I class as "half tide ports", by which I mean that you need half tide or more to get in or out with Wild Thyme's 6 foot draft. It's a handy concept, because half tide is about the same depth at springs or neaps. The flat bottom of the keel gets the weight as low down as possible , maximising the righting moment for a given draft.

Sorry, no idea how you can find copies of old test reports nowadays. Yachting World and Yachting Monthly (same publisher) used to run a service selling copies of old test reports, but gave it up about 30 years ago - presumably no profit in it. It's possible an owner on here has one, but I don't know.

Peter.
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Hi Peter,
I didn't write that the 422 was delivered with legs but with the fixation device for them. I will try to gather further informations about it and I won't fail to keep you inform of the results. Up to now I didnt notice that the depth was nearly the same at half tide by neaps or springs. It is a good tip! Thank you. Let me now if you sail toward Brittany next summer. I would be happy to meet you and your pretty 425 "Wild Thyme's".
Best regards.
Thierry
 
Hi Thierry,

We were in Honfleur a couple of weeks ago but had to get back home for a few things.No plans for Brittany this year but we took Wild Thyme there for most of the summer a few years ago.

Peter.
 
Hi Peter,
Honfleur is a very romantic port of call but is suffering of a lack of nature from my point of view. The town is overwhelmed by tourists on the week end but I hope you enjoyed your stay. Is Wild Thyme equiped with the mast furler system for the main sail? What is your opinion about this device? Who is or are the manufacterers?
If you plan to come in Brittany let me know. I'm living near Morlaix on the north shore.
My contact: thierry.troadec@wanadoo.fr +33(0)684392360
Best regards.
Thierry
 
Hi Thierry,

We enjoyed Honfleur, thank you but you're right - tourism has increased since our last visit there ad we were hardly in the peak season.

Wild Thyme does have the in - mast mainsail furling system built by Kemp who were then 50 % owned by Selden. not long after Wild Thyme was built, Selden bought the other half of Kemp Masts and the current Selden in mast furling system is a development of this design. We were unsure about it when we bought her but to change to a standard stack pack system would have meant replacing the mast, which we weren't willing to do. We did however replace the sails which were in poor condition and that transformed the operation of the system. Now, being 15 years older than when we bought her, we wouldn't be without the system - reefing is very straightforward and can all be done without leaving the cockpit.

If thinking of in-mast furling, you should note that a good system involves changing your mast as a purpose built mast weighs considerably less than a standard mast plus a rivet-on furling system so these aftermarket add on systems inevitably give a greater increase in weight aloft.

Peter.
 
Hi Peter,

thank you for your explanation about the advantages of the mast integrated furling system. I agree that this system can offer advantages in terms of easiness to handle in compare to a traditional reefing system. Yesterday I had the opportunity to visit a 425 in south Brittany and the owner was very happy of this furling system however he had to find out the right way to use it at the beginning. I discovered the 425 and was impressed by the design and confort of the accomodations.

Best regards.
Thierry
 
Hi Thierry,

Yes, we also had to learn how to use the furling system properly - the most critical issue is to have the boom at the correct angle to the mast, and the correct angle is determined by the cut of the sail, so it's not a single number that you can apply to all boats with in mast furling. In fact, as the memory gets worse with age, the first sail of each season is an opportunity for relearning what we first learned when we bought Wild Thyme 15 years ago.

We would agree that the M425 has a first class layout both on deck and down below, the only other Moody that matches her in this respect is her successor the Moody 44, which also has a slightly more modern rig, but we're not about to trade Wild Thyme in for one of those.

Have a good summer.

Peter.
 
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